Eastern Results from the May 2017 LoAR
EASTERN RESULTS FROM THE MAY 2017 LoAR
The Society College of Arms runs on monthly cycles and letters. Each month, the College processes name and armory submissions from all of the Kingdoms. Final decisions on submissions are made at the monthly meetings of the Pelican Queen of Arms (names) and the Wreath Queen of Arms (armory). Pelican and Wreath then write up their decisions in a Letter of Acceptances and Return (LoAR). After review and proofreading, LoARs generally are released two months after the meeting where the decisions are made.
An “acceptance” indicates that the item(s) listed are now registered with the Society. A “return” indicates that the item is returned to the submitter for additional work. Most items are registered without comments. Sometimes, the LoAR will address specific issues about the name or armory or will praise the submitter/herald on putting together a very nice historically accurate item.
The following results are from the May 2017 Wreath and Pelican meetings.
Anneke Valmarsdotter. Name and badge. (Fieldless) A pinecone with stem to chief azure.
Jean Oste de Murat. Badge. (Fieldless) A prawn Or.
The question was raised in commentary about whether a prawn would conflict with a crab, which would bring this badge into conflict with the device of Mór Ruadh: Gules, a crab Or. Crabs and lobsters have been demonstrated to be interchangeable in period, and we do not grant a DC between the two crustaceans. Some commentary suggested that charges that look like lobsters might have been described in cants as prawns, though evidence for that has not yet been provided.
However, the submitter has received permission to conflict from Mór. We therefore decline at this time to rule whether a prawn has a DC from a lobster. We also decline to rule on the precise relationship between prawns and crabs, prawns and lobsters, and crabs and lobsters so far as difference is concerned.
Jean Oste de Murat. Badge. Per bend argent and azure, a hop cone slipped and leaved Or.
This does not conflict with the device of Turold of Normandy, Purpure, a New World pineapple Or leaved vert. The substantial leaves of a New World pineapple sufficiently separate it visually from a hop cone for there to be DC between them.
Lijsbet van Catwiic. Badge. (Fieldless) A mortar and pestle sable charged with an elderflower argent.
Lijsbet van Catwiic. Badge. (Fieldless) An escallop purpure winged Or.
Ravensdale, Stronghold of. Branch name.
Ruantallan, Barony of. Badge for Populace. (Fieldless) On a dolphin haurient argent a tenterhook azure.
Ruantallan, Barony of. Badge for Populace. (Fieldless) On a dolphin haurient contourny argent a tenterhook reversed azure.
Ryan Mac Whyte. Heraldic title Skunk Herald.
Skunk is the lingua Anglica form of the Early Modern English term Squuncke, the plural form of which is found in the OED s.v. skunk dated to 1634.
Samuel Peter Bump. Badge. (Fieldless) A fess wavy within and conjoined to a mascle sable.
Thomas de Marr. Badge. (Fieldless) On a barrel sable a dragon passant Or.
Thomas de Marr. Badge. (Fieldless) In fess a dunghill cock Or conjoined at their tails with a bull rampant contourny gules.
Thomas de Marr. Badge. Per chevron inverted gules and azure, in chief a cockatrice Or.
Whyt Whey, Canton of. Device change. Argent, an apple gules slipped and leaved within a laurel wreath vert and an orle sable.
Nice device change!
Canton’s previous device, Sable, a cockroach tergiant within a laurel wreath and on a chief embattled argent, a pomme, is retained as ancient arms.
Whyt Whey, Canton of. Badge for Populace. Argent, an apple gules slipped and leaved vert within an orle sable.
Zoya the Orphan. Name (see RETURNS for device).
The byname the Orphan is the lingua Anglica form of the Russian byname Sirot or Sirota, both of which are found in Paul Wickenden of Thanet’s “A Dictionary of Period Russian Names” (http://heraldry.sca.org/paul/).
Christiana Crane. Badge. (Fieldless) Six caltrops conjoined in annulo points to center argent.
This badge must be returned for visual conflict via SENA A5D2 with the badge of Clovia Lumi: Sable, a snowflake argent, and with the device of Thorbjorn Wulfgrimmssøn, Per fess azure and Or masoned sable, in chief a snowflake argent. The arrangement of the caltrops left a distinct impression of a snowflake for most commenters, and when considered as a snowflake, there is only one DC from each piece of registered armory for removing the field.
Additionally, this must be returned for lack of identifiability. The overlapping tips of the caltrops caused visual confusion which made the charges themselves difficult to identify, which further led to the assumption by most submitters that the design is a snowflake.
Snowflakes have not been allowed as heraldic charges since August 1994, with subsequent registrations falling under allowances found in SENA A2B3 and similar rules in RfS.
Vígþorn Vetsson. Name.
Submitted as Vígþorn Vetsson, the patronymic does not use the correct genitive (possessive) form of the father’s name. The proper construction is Vetrarson or Vetarson. We would change the name for registration, but the submitter does not allow any changes.
On resubmission, the submitter should be prepared to demonstrate that the name Vetr was used by real people. The only use of Vetr as a personal name in Cleasby-Vigfusson is for a mythological giant who was the son of Vindsvalr or Vindlóni in the Eddas. Without evidence of usage by real people, a name claiming to be the son of a giant is likely to be prohibited by PN4C of SENA as improperly claiming powers.
Zoya the Orphan. Device. Purpure, three Arabian lamps argent.
This device is returned for conflict with Celestinus MacCriomthainn: Vert, three pitchers flammant at the mouths argent. There is a DC for changing the field, but none for enflaming the pitchers. We don’t grant difference between pitchers, ewers, laverpots, and other spouted, handled vessels; the Arabian lamp, not being a period charge, doesn’t get the allowance for period differencing.